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WT-Closing In On 50 Subpoenas!

by Atlantis in

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more subpoenas have been added.

so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.

brumley the witchhunter!.

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If all entities self represent that will leave only WT paying legal fees for each and every of 50 proceedures..

The optics would be great! ...locally newsworthy over and over and over..

WT as Goliath and all our friends as mere Davids seeking legal justice through dispersal of vital information warning of charities fraud, failing to report child sexual abuses and destruction of families worldwide by not respecting the rights of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, freedom of association wherever JWs little lunatic theocracy enforces its sick parallel justice system.

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Artificial Intelligence and 2019

by fulltimestudent in

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i was intrigued by a forecast made by damo academy, the in-house technology and science research arm of china's, huge e-commerce business,, alibaba.. they seem to be predicting the following technology trends for 2019 and that artificial intelligence would continue to be the ho area of progress.. so what do any techies hanging out here think?

safe predictions?

wild guesses?

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Mr. Conti glazed over climate change pretty fast given that it may well be the trigger to our extinction, and possibly soon.

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Research Opportunity

by researchstudentsophie in

my name is sophie, and i am currently in the class ap research.

the aim of ap research is to have students enter into an academic conversation that exists about a specific topic or issue.

for my research project, i have chosen to evaluate the social stress levels, or sense of belonging, within members of the jehovah’s witnesses community, due to my personal background with the religion.. the following attachment will help me collect data for my research.

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Earnest -

It isn't "my" source, and I haven't drawn any conclusion from it . It was just one (likely biased) study among many others referenced by JW FACTS, regarding worldwide aberrant mental health statistics of JWs.

A challenge was issued to produce such a statistic and it was produced

Sophie is doing research as a student of Cornell on a topic of great interest to every member of this forum...we who spend hours howling and wailing about how the hypocrisy, dishonesty and dogma of WT continues to ruin so much in so many of our families and friends.

When invited to comment on how this cults insanity affects those in the work force, we shoot the messenger by challenging her affiliations, her motives and even her honesty (yes she really did see a figure as high as "...10 to 16 times...").

With such a welcome It might strike her as obvious that the anxiety, mistrust and paranoia might linger long after escaping the asylum that created it.

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Research Opportunity

by researchstudentsophie in

my name is sophie, and i am currently in the class ap research.

the aim of ap research is to have students enter into an academic conversation that exists about a specific topic or issue.

for my research project, i have chosen to evaluate the social stress levels, or sense of belonging, within members of the jehovah’s witnesses community, due to my personal background with the religion.. the following attachment will help me collect data for my research.

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JW Facts / Mental illness amongst Jehovah's Witnesses

Less than 30 seconds to find a study Sophie possibly cited. Ohio 1972 to 1976

"The mental illness rate of JWs is approximately 10 to 16 times higher than the rate for the general, nonWitness population... From his intensive interviews with Witness patients and others, Montague concluded that persons who had emotional problems were attracted to the Witnesses, but involvement also caused many of the emotional problems that they suffered. This is evident from the fact that many with problems reported they were far happier after they left.

Inquiring minds are eager to know WHY cults contribute to such high figures .

The first child ever raised full/on JW in our family later became our families first and ever suicide.

We KNOW why the rates are so high so get your asses into gear and give Sophie an earful of how religious abuse and hypocrisy affect the lives of working people.

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Research Opportunity

by researchstudentsophie in

my name is sophie, and i am currently in the class ap research.

the aim of ap research is to have students enter into an academic conversation that exists about a specific topic or issue.

for my research project, i have chosen to evaluate the social stress levels, or sense of belonging, within members of the jehovah’s witnesses community, due to my personal background with the religion.. the following attachment will help me collect data for my research.

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Sophies research questions exJWs as well, so go for it.

Format is agree/disagree to statements on a scale if 1 to 5 .

Comments pertaining to your responses are invited.

If you were a JW during some or all of your working years you will appreciate the questions asked...

I enjoyed sharing through such a format

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My story

by Leeny in

i came across this website when i was looking for some emotional/mental support lately as i was summoned by elders to explain someone’s report on me saying “i’m promoting homosexuality”.

i’m inactive, not attending meetings or associating with jw outside of my biological family for almost 2 years now.. yes i am gay (you can judge away) and yes it is in a direct contrast to the scriptures, no arguement about it.. i was brought up in a jw family.

my dad is a typical zealot, he literally talks or thinks about the bible 24/7.

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Welcome Leeny -

Fear not - democracy has your back.

Your apostasy is now an established and valued human right called Freedom of Religion.

Your sexual preferences are protected by Freedom of Expression and Freedom of Speech.

Check your countries slate/constitution/charter of democratic rights and freedoms and get on happily with the wonderful life you've longed for...

and NEVER- EVER meet with elders, ayatollahs or "theocratic" kommandants of any stripe!

You are already free!

(You're welcome)

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Public Talk invitations ....Next to .Zero Attendees

by smiddy3 in

from my conversion at the end of 1959 to my leaving the j.w`s about early 1993 i remember especially in the first 20 -30 years or so giving out invitations to public talks that were to be given at our local k.h.

every time i went out in the service witnessing from door to door week in week out i would leave these tracts at not at homes or whoever would accept them .. and in my personal experience i cannot recall more than five worldly / non j.w.

people , if that , who came to a public talk as a result of the invitations given at the doors in our witnessing work in the 33 years of my being an active jehovah`s witness .. and none of them ever became a jehovah`s witness .. was it just me ?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but there seems to be no such thing as a "Public Talk" for quite some years now.

While the KH outside menus used to refer to a Pubic talk Or Public Discourse they now refer to weekday or weekend meetings .

I imagine this is in keeping with the strictly insular nature of a high control cult.

In reality, nothing is really intended for, or the benefit of the public - (hence no charitable works from a registered charity). But rather all is for the control of the captive membership.

Completely logical for a group with more former than current members = more detractors than supporters.

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Help with article on Watchtower Changes due to Legal Pressure

by jwfacts in

at https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/8j8fj9/what_legal_requirements_have_forced_the/excircuitoverseer started an excellent thread on areas watchtower has changed due to legal pressure.

this has promoted me to gather the information into an article.

there is a number of points that i would like to expand on, and need assistance in finding information.. the article is at https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/blog/changes-due-to-legal-pressure.php.

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Orphan Crow-

Your link looks very interesting, but pdf seems to be only available with a membership -sign in? Are you familiar with the process? Thanks

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Interview with an Apostate : humbled : not-a-captive

by humbled in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. born in 1952 second oldest of the family of nine children.

as you see, my family was thoroughly catholic.

dad was in the army.. were you a born in or a convert?.

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Maeve -

When I joined this forum about 2013, your comments were highly valued as from a person of dignity, admirable compassion and deep experience. While your posts from those days certainly conveyed your kindness, and thoughtful humanity, I suggest that you "cracked the door" a few months ago when you responded to a post that offended.

In that post you set the record straight and stood your ground heroically as I recall, and I've since admired you even more ... now this !

Your interview adds to your fine personality a fascinating history - and all set down swaddled in the fine literary lilt of the Irish.

Maeve - 'tis an honour to know you lass.

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Fading with Confidence

by gone for good in

abandoning a damaging cult is not a crime, in fact it might be viewed as a moral imperative given the levels of abuse awaiting those surrendering to its teachings and worse –its "ecclesiastic authority".. it has always seemed counter productive to inform potential enemies when your life´s goals now conflict with their rigid agendas.

disassociation letters and manifestos may be cathartic in the writing, but the outcome is a 100% certainty because of the inflexibility and lack of caring by the very group it is delivered to.. .

"fading" from under "high control" seems an oxymoronic risk at best, and currently faders walk on eggshells and look over their shoulders for years during and after the attempt - fearful that the price of their freedom will be the destruction of their friendships and family ties.. perhaps a peculiar additional preparation to a fade can reverse the balance of power – and high control cults are all about power.. .. bear in mind: - .

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Hello everyone and thanks for your responses -

Phoebe - it was your situation that caused me to raise this issue again.

I posted the topic just hours before I left on international travel, because I didn't want to lose the draft. I will further our discussion (based on your comments)

The travel I mentioned involved flight delays, missed connections and 2 FULL days and nights at big airports. I need to recover and collect my scattered wits before I respond to your...zzzzzzzzzzzzz